tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post5654240054826354383..comments2024-01-26T01:49:56.783-06:00Comments on Lagniappe's Lair: More on the Israel thingMurphy's Lawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-6289279859244033912010-06-05T03:27:29.515-05:002010-06-05T03:27:29.515-05:00If you really think about it, I fail to see the tr...If you really think about it, I fail to see the tragedy here: the student from the USA did exactly what she was supposed to do, which was get injured. <br /><br />I mean, aren't protests about PUBLICITY? I assume they are, and far and away the most effective protests involve folks getting hurt and/or killed, preferably nice, naive types with good cred. <br /><br />So really, little Emily was wildly successful and instead of soft-eyed sympathy, she should get bigtime applause from anyone who's ever been in a protest, as she did EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS THERE FOR; to get hurt or killed. Why do you think groups invite or involve foreign students from 'good backgrounds' to their shindigs? To watch? <br /><br />Please: they are there to potentially get hurt and supply dramatic images for display to well-intentioned folks who identify better with a pretty, jeans-clad arsty-fart than a burkha-clad harridan.<br /><br />Mission accomplished.JLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865354946519925483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-5157691827746118622010-06-04T18:03:22.815-05:002010-06-04T18:03:22.815-05:00The post that was scrubbed talked about IDF counte...The post that was scrubbed talked about IDF counter-terrorist tactics and what goods are prohibited from entering the Gaza. I hardly think it was off topic in a discussion about someone injured protesting those two policies. I don't think it was off topic, but if you thought so you could have just said "let's stay on topic" or "I'll post a separate thread for that discussion" instead of just ignoring it, removing it, and wasting my time. I'm not good at telling what is on or off topic so I'll just save myself the effort and leave. <br /><br />No hard feelings though :)<br />Good luck in life and blogging.NEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359866004589529509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-16615258412366203202010-06-04T08:54:46.441-05:002010-06-04T08:54:46.441-05:00NE, your last post went the way of all things beca...NE, your last post went the way of all things because it wasn't much more than a long anecdotal screed against the IDF. <br /><br />Stay focused on the topics and I'm more than happy to give you a say.<br /><br />But you need to stop minimizing the issue there. The only reason that there are not many more rocket attacks against the civilians of Israel is because Israel has blockaded Gaza and kept the rockets out, and because it prevents the people in Gaza--people who overwhelmingly support Hamas in their attacks on the good people over the border fence--from constructing rockets and launchers. That's why the embargo keeps construction equipment out--the Palestinians build bunkers and rocket-launching platforms with that stuff.<br /><br />Anyway, the people in Palestine could have peace any time they want it. Israel has in the past offered them virtually everything that they've sought, only to have Yasser Arafat turn it all down and walk out. So that's on him and them for supporting him and Hamas. When the Palestinians reject Hamas and start trying to act like civilized people, their lives will get so much easier and they could have the same standard of living as those in Egypt and Israel. They actually had it fairly good before electing Hamas to run their government. But as long as they choose to allow Hamas to control everything and spend the money sent to them for humanitarian aid on weapons, they'll be living in third-world squalor by their own choosing.Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-29269817851519801942010-06-04T00:57:01.318-05:002010-06-04T00:57:01.318-05:00This comment will probably just get scrubbed needl...This comment will probably just get scrubbed needlessly like my last one, but I'll try again I guess. <br /><br />I don't know why I have to keep saying this but PALESTINIAN DOES NOT MEAN ISLAMIC TERRORIST. You seem to think Palestine is some kind region completely filled with RPG toting blood thirsty warriors, but if it was you'd see whole lot more attacks than some crappy rockets now and then. There are millions of average, everyday people just trying to survive in Palestine. <br /><br />The choice isn't IDF or Hamas. Any non-radical would chose the IDF over Islamic fundamentalists, but it is like asking a Pole in the Fall of 1939 if he wants his village sacked by the Germans or Russians. You would pick Russia, of course, because even crappy communism is better than an SS death camp, but you wouldn't be too happy about it.<br /><br />The real choice in this conflict is violence vs. peace. I don't want to sound like a hippy or anything but you got trigger happy people on both sides making life a living hell for people like us just trying to get by. In a perfect world we would have a secular 'Israelistine' with both Israelis and Palestinians having equal rights. Right now that isn't politically viable so we should shoot for a two state solution.<br /><br />Also, I didn't call you a coward. I don't even know you, but you did make a cowardly statement. A girl lost an eye standing up for what she believes in - a people's right to self-governance and self-determination. As a fellow American, I hope that is something you value as well. We have those rights because someone was willing to risk their eye, even their life for American Independence 235 years ago. The French, Haitians, Spanish, Dutch, numerous Indian tribes, and even some British citizens all helped us win the war for our freedom. If an American citizen loses an eye trying to spread that same flame of freedom to another part of the world, if seems a bit cowardly to belittle her. Being an American isn't a free ride. We are world's superpower and the greatest example of the capacity of democratic and egalitarian values. We have a responsibility to encourage those ideals. The girl who lost her eye is out there doing that job while you and I pluck away at our keyboards.<br /><br />Also, did you check out that list of stuff banned from Gaza I tried to post? Do you see how it is designed to punish a population and not to protect Israel or impede terrorists?NEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03359866004589529509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-49297189971410769402010-06-03T23:56:43.119-05:002010-06-03T23:56:43.119-05:00Completely agree... Been there, seen them operate....Completely agree... Been there, seen them operate. you are dead on the money.Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-19740169024214538882010-06-03T23:05:48.631-05:002010-06-03T23:05:48.631-05:00Brother, you get the best trolls!Brother, you get the best trolls!Sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572583408046642437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-28042632970264228132010-06-03T19:42:08.509-05:002010-06-03T19:42:08.509-05:00Right on the money bro! The world stands by while ...Right on the money bro! The world stands by while Iran and Syria and N.Korea sponsor terrorism, and develop nuclear weapons. We call for more treaties and peace talks as if that's ever done anything productive. Every time Israel attempts to circumvent genocide of it's people the entire world stands up screaming shouting at them. They stand alone amongst enemies who want to annihilate them and they can't count on anyone to be reasonable.Ten 80https://www.blogger.com/profile/09111858896344792252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20147126.post-70700700008611188992010-06-03T17:46:20.506-05:002010-06-03T17:46:20.506-05:00IDF women are smoking hotIDF women are smoking hotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com