HENRIETTA TOWNSHIP -- Deborah Banyas and her husband, Terry Speer, thought they were buying their dream house in the rolling farmland of southwestern Lorain County 10 years ago. Then the gunfire started, spoiling their idyllic retreat.But that's not exactly true. According to the Scouts,
The source of the gunfire is a shooting range at the neighboring Firelands Scout Reservation on Gore Orphanage Road.
"It's constant banging all day long," Banyas said. "Even if we go in the house, close the windows and turn up music, it's loud. It never stops."
shooting only happens 9 a.m. to noon and 2 to 5 p.m. on weekdays during the five weeks camp is open. Children also shoot 7:30 to 9 p.m. on Wednesday nights during camp. There is also shooting six to 10 Saturdays a year and one day of shooting when the Young Marines come to camp.That's hardly "constant" or even regular. Five weeks in the summer during set daytime hours, and six to ten Saturdays. And what do scouts shoot? .22 rifles and small-bore shotguns. Nothing large or noisy.
Since 1998, the couple have lived on their 20-acre property, home to their Riverdog Art Studio, where the two artists create mixed-media sculptures. They said they have a hard time working with all the racket coming from the 450-acre reservation next door.
Banyas said the noise is at its worst during the annual six weeks of summer camp, which ended recently, when the shooting goes on all day long. But the noise also continues much of the year, she said. It got worse three years ago when the camp put up a metal roof over part of the range.
"Now the gunfire echoes even louder," she said.
Palli Holubar, who has lived nearby since 1998, said she gets frustrated at the "endless staccato and noise." The blasts intrude on simple pleasures like Sunday morning walks on her property.
Camp Executive Director Barry Norris said the camp has been there for more than 60 years and the Scouts have worked hard to be good neighbors. The shooting ranges are needed so the Scouts can qualify for merit badges.
And it's not like the Scouts haven't been trying to fix things. Norris explains:
"We put up wooden panels to deaden the noise and covered some with carpet. . . . We moved our shotgun range to the other side of the camp. We eliminated the black powder gun demonstrations because they were too loud," he said. "I don't know what else we could do."And of course the hippies claim that the Scouts shoot machine guns, a claim that the Scouts deny. Rick Cloud, program director for the Scouts’ Heart of Ohio Council, said no one is permitted to shoot automatic or semiautomatic weapons. He also said that the Scouts tried to soundproof the range near Banyas that is used for .22-caliber rifles and that neighbors have put loudspeakers on the edge of the property to harass the Scouts and cursed in the presence of children.
Three township trustees inspected the range and were satisfied with what they found, Township Trustee Butch Born said.
Banyas said the loudspeakers were used only once, on July 4 weekend.
Speer acknowledged using a “rather nasty” word to camp Ranger Dan Thomas while calling him a liar, but Speer said no children heard him.
So what we have here is hippies lying about the level of annoyance and also putting up loudspeakers and cursing at the Scout Leader. That makes it pretty clear just what sort of folks these "artists" are. I wouldn't want them as my neighbors either.
Cutting to the chase, I think it's obvious what this is about. It's nothing more than a couple of elitist leftist hippie-types who undoubtedly hate guns, hate the Scouts, and just want to drive them off the land that they were using before these whiners were even born. They couldn't possibly have not known about that camp and it's activities before moving in had they exercised even a tiny bit of diligence and asked their realtor or any of the other neighbors. They knew that they were moving in next to a place where wholesome American kids learned valuable skills, including marksmanship and hunter safety. This is just another example of someone who moves from the city out to a nice country environment and then tries to bring all the city rules and regulations with them to impose on the people that were there first.
And what is it that these "artists" create that requires so much silence? Is it something worthy of Rembrandt, Degas, Van Gogh or Renoir?
Nah. It's just a bunch of fake-assed African schlock where guys in suits worship antelopes.
Yeah, that's sure worth more than guiding and teaching hundreds of young men every year.
Damn hippies need to move in next to Lagniappe and me. We'd make it a point to run at least one belt through the Browning every evening just to help them put the Boy Scouts and their occasional use of single-shot .22's in perspective. ......................................."Yo! Hippies! GET SOME!"......................................
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Assholes! There aren't many good ranges out there (in my opinion). Those idiots should move back to the big city, then they'll get to hear gunfire 24/7:)
ReplyDeleteCheck my blog, my kid joined a new range:)
Hose 'em off there, dog!
ReplyDeleteWhy aren't these losers living in San Francisco with the rest of the no-talent artsy-fartsy crowd?
Good grief!!! Some people I guess just find everything to complain about, huh?!?
ReplyDeleteGO SCOUTS !!! America needs more Scouts, less HIPPIES.
ReplyDeleteI have this kind of situation in reverse. I live in the City and we had some Hippies move in on the block behind us. They are always calling the police about the noise from the neighborhood kids playing in their own yards. They say that the noise from kids playing disturbs them on Sundays when they want to relax. We have all told them to move to the country and get the hell out of the city if you don't like the noise.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I love the art. Who the hell buys that kind of crap? I wouldn't hang that in my house if you paid me. Thanks for adding a visual for us.
ReplyDeleteLOL! Love Lagniappe's pic.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Goddess.
ReplyDeleteHe takes his watchdog role pretty seriously. :-)
I think it is time to smite a hippie of two!!
ReplyDeleteI'm peeking over at your blog from USAIncognito's after enjoying the comment you left on her welfare post ;o)
ReplyDeleteThe situation you wrote about is terrible! It reminds me of a situation at my husband's last duty station. We were stationed near NAS Ocean, in Virginia Beach, and all of these people who *chose* to buy homes near the air station, which had been there DECADES before these people would whine and complain about the jet noise. Every house sold or apt rented in the area required that you sign a waiver about the jet noise and just walking outside would it no secret that jets flew overhead. Yet still these people whined & complained, attempting to shut down the naval base. I was just amazed.
Goodness, the jet noise wasn't that bad once you got used to it, which took maybe a week at most. The only time it was annoying, but really in quite a comical way, was when a jet approached during a phone call as it would never fail to be a climatic moment in the conversation. Such is life! LOL.
People and their entitlement issues *rolls eyes*
I went to the hipster morons' own web pages, and it reads like a parody. I kept imagining them as the dinner guests in Beetlejuice. Wonder if they know how to sing "Day-O?"
ReplyDeleteBwahahaha! I loved that movie just for that part!
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, these folks are totally those folks.
In the next town over from here there is an airport. It has been there for many, many, MANY years, long before the houses were built surrounding it.
ReplyDeleteNow, when new people move in to those houses, they complain that the airplanes are too loud.
The airport was there first. Just like the range, if they had done a bit of research they would have known the airport was there, as if they couldn't see and hear the aircraft flying over when they were looking at the house.
I would LOVE to live that close to an airport, the aerospace nut I am.
The friggin' Hippie, Yuppie scum need to realize they effed up and move out.
Oh... and GIT SOME Lagniappe!
Asshole is right,this is the schedule http://www.banyasandspeer.com/exhibition.htm
ReplyDeleteon their web site. They are gone all the time, so how do they hear all the gun fire?
I am the shooting sports Director for the Boy Scouts, Heart of Ohio Council. I teach gun safety and the proper way to safely shoot,and handle a firearm. The "artist's" played their loud music not "once as they claim, but three times". The problem is the boys could not hear range commands, which is unsafe. On one occasion they played "tip toe through the tulips" for two and one half hours.We have done everything possible to appease these people and they cannot be satisfied. I'm with everyone else, if you do not like living in the country, please feel free to move back to the city.
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