So in commemoration of those brave Americans who stood their ground on Lexington Common in 1775, the day that the "shot heard round the world" was fired as British troops sought to seize American cannon and powder stores in Concord, Old NFO, Proud Hillbilly and I went out to the range to burn some powder of our own.
We got out there a bit before noon, and the place was packed, notably with a group of yammerheads who took much delight in sitting on the 25-yard pistol range and firing AR-15s as fast as they could jerk the triggers. Here's a tip, AR guys: If you put out half a dozen sporting clays on the berm 25 yards away and three of you empty your thirty-round magazines as fast as you can at them, and when you're done most of the clays are STILL THERE, you're doing it wrong. Just saying.
But it was M1 Carbine day for the three of us. Jim had a wonderful old Winchester that seemed to have missed most of the upgrade modifications, PH had her post-war carbine, and I brought my CMP Rock-Ola carbine, just because I wanted to fit in. I also brought out my Remington Rolling Block .50-70, and we fired off the few black powder rounds that I'd loaded up for it. I've got the load down pretty good--now I've just got to adjust the rifle's sights to it. (And that .50-70 sure gets your shoulder's attention after a few rounds.)
Then Jim and I fired a few rounds of .22LR for effect, me with my trusty old Ruger 10-22 and him with a sweet vintage Colt Woodsman and his Savage .22 rifle.
Next, we switched to pistols for a bit. I had my Uberti SAA and Walther PPK out, Jim had a beautiful Colt Match Target .38 Special, and PH...Eh. Just a Glock. (But she shoots it well.) ;-) But by the time we started shooting these, a rather large group of what looked like college kids showed up and the range staff put them on two pistols and two AR rifles on either side of us. It was immediately obvious that none of them had shot before, so, after we did our duty to new shooters and coached a few of them, we called it quits for the day and adjourned to a local restaurant for lunch.
My rifles:
Top to bottom: Remington Rolling Block, Model 1871 made for NY State Militia; US Carbine, .30 M1 made by the Rock-Ola Corp.; Ruger 10-22.
My pistols:
Uberti Cattleman, .45 Long Colt (top) and Walther PPK (bottom).
Ah, that PPK. Packs a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window, or so sayeth Ian Flemming when he had James Bond issued one in Dr. No.
It was a much-needed relaxing day out for the three of us, and a great way to celebrate Patriot's Day.
So who didn't have a good time today?
Well when we got back to my house, Murphy met us at the door. Alone. Where was Belle? I called, but no Belle came. Quickly, Jim and I looked around the house. No Belle. Damn, she was in here when we left. Where could she have gone?
And then I heard something whine and scratch at the inside of the closed bathroom door off the kitchen. Yep. Poor Memphis Belle had managed to get in there after we'd left, no doubt to raid the dog food bag that I keep in there or to sample the kitchen scraps in the trash bag that was in there. (Both bags were in there specifically to keep them away from two dogs, BTW.) Well Miss Belle managed to knock the door shut while she was in there, trapping herself quite nicely. She may have been in there for up to four hours, and let me tell you, she destroyed the place during that time. The trash? Scattered everywhere. Dog hair and paw-prints? Everywhere. There were scratches on the inside of the door and paw-prints in the bath tub, up on the top of the toilet tank, and even on the sink. I even found claw marks on the window sill five feet off the floor as Belle apparently climbed on the toilet in an unsuccessful attempt to try to get out the window. Poor girl. She was a little upset when I finally sprung her to say the least. But she got over it quick enough when she saw her new friend Jim there and her and Murphy both jostled each other to get some petting from him. I'm still mad at her though. And I'm blaming Murphy for it, too. I can't prove it, but I'm sure that he was somehow at least partly responsible.
Now I'm off to clean guns. Have a great Patriot's Day, everyone.
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Saturday, April 19, 2014
Friday, August 23, 2013
It followed me home from the pawn shop
Because I needed another rifle like I need a hole in my head.
But it was there, stuck back in a corner of their rack behind the counter two days ago. And they didn't seem to know what it was.
Is that a Rolling Block, I asked, knowing full well that it was. And it was. A bit shop-worn and neglected, but at over 140 years old, it's excusable.
The tag read: .45-70 rifle". The price: up there. My guess was that they didn't know what they had or what it was worth and they were just taking a WAG (Wild-ass Guess) and hoping that someone would bite.
To be fair, I'm far from a Rolling Block expert. I know one when I see one, but when it comes to telling the difference between the uncountable number of variations of them out there...not even on a good day. Still, if this was a .45-70, it could come in handy as a test rifle for working up loads for my more valuable and fragile Trapdoor. And it's not like it's not historic and kinda neat it's ownself.
I played with it in the store for a while, kicking it's tires thoroughly and pointing out every flaw, real or imagined, that I could find. And it was pretty easy as the stock had plenty of wear and some re-finish long ago, and the metal was either patina or bare, with a fair bit of external mild pitting on the barrel and some rust on the receiver. But the action was solid and tight, and the bore was remarkably clean and bright with some pretty good grooves. It wasn't a museum piece, but it was far from being a basket case and it looked like it'd make a good shooter.
"Don't look too interested," I told myself. I pawed it over, then set it down and looked at some videos on a nearby rack, then I toyed with it some more, trying to appear skeptically pensive. Isiah, the guy behind the counter, seemed to think that I was his only reason for existing. He really, really wanted me to buy this rifle. But I had a lot of homework to do before I was willing to commit. I needed to figure out what it was and what it was worth first. So I continued to play with it, making mental notes as to the type of sight, number of barrel bands, markings, etc. And Isiah kept pressing me to buy it, dropping the price more and more each time that I didn't take the bait. Finally he was down to almost half what the tag was asking. Well considering that some of the shop's other "gems" included a Turkish Mauser with a garbage bore and a broken extractor that didn't even get a shrug from Isiah when I pointed it out ($350.00 for that POS) and a Czech Mauser boat anchor with a stock that someone had painted gloss brown (Described as a BRNO rifle, also $350.), I figured that if they were asking that much for obvious junk, their mark-up on the Rolling Block had to be astronomical as well. I thanked him for his time and left with his "best out-the-door price" written down, telling him I might be back again that evening or the next day.
Home I went, and on the computer I got. A bit of research pretty much pegged this rifle as a Model 1871 out of the batch purchased by New York state for that state's militia back in the early 1870's. It was not, however, a .45-70 but a .50-70. This was a bit of a let-down for me, but I could at least still get brass and bullets for it so what the heck? Besides, I wanted to see how low they'd really go on it.
I wandered back in the next morning. Isiah was there, along with a woman I'd not seen the day before. His eyes brightened when he saw me. "Back for this rifle?" he asked, way too hopefully.
"I came back to check it out again," I said. "If it's a .45-70, I can probably find a use for it."
"Oh yeah, it's a .45-70," Isiah reassured me as he took the rifle off the rack.
"Great," I said. "But just to be sure, because these things are floating around out there in so many different calibers today, I brought a dummy .45-70 cartride to check it out with. You don't mind, right?" You'd have thought that I just kicked his dog by the look on his face. That pretty much told me that he either knew or suspected that this wasn't a .45-70. He took my dummy round--made that morning in my shop from a new case and bullet, with no primer or powder, and he handled it for quite a while. "This can't go off, can it?" he asked, staring at the empty primer pocket. I assured him that it could not, and when he handed it back to me, I dropped it into the rifle's chamber. It slid right in and rattled around a bit. "Hmmmm..." I said. Then I took it out and put the bullet into the muzzle. The round dropped in clean to the cartridge head.
"This is not a .45-70," I told Isiah.
"Well what is it?" He asked me.
"Could be anything," I replied. "They re-chambered these in so many calibers, almost all of which are obsolete now." I paused for a bit. "Let me think on this," I told him.
The rear sight--correct for this model rifle.
At this point, Isiah told the woman there to take care of me, because he was going to get something to eat. Apparently he'd lost interest in this deal and wasn't worried about letting me know it. Points off for rudeness, I decided.
She came over and asked me if I wanted the rifle, telling me that they wanted to sell it because it had been in the store "forever". I explained the caliber problem and told her that I might still be interested in it, however I'd come in willing to buy a .45-70 and this wasn't one. She asked me if Isiah had given me a bottom-line price, and I said yes, naming a figure that was $50.00 lower than his quoted price mainly as a tax for him walking out on me like that. Then I spent the next five minutes idly looking at the rifle before I told her that even though we didn't know what caliber it was, I was willing to consider it just as a project if she'd take a hundred dollars less than the figure I'd just named ($150.00 off Isiah's "best we can do" price.) She walked in the back a minute, then came out and said if I was paying cash, we had a deal. I handed her the cash and made myself scarce before Isiah returned. I paid less than half of their original price, which tells me that their mark-up was ridiculous in the extreme.
Now I've got the rifle back at the lair, some of the surface rust has been removed, and a nice coating of RIG applied to the metal until I can devote a bit more time to a proper clean-up. I've got some .50-70 stuff on order and I can only hope that I've assessed it correctly as a NYS militia rifle otherwise the joke here may well be on me. But even if it is, this old rifle's clearly been somewhere and done something and now it's got a good home.
The remains of it's old unit and rack numbers. Someone issued and tracked this rifle for a while.
The Rolling Block action. NYS militia rifles were known for their tall hammers.
Action open, ready to receive a cartridge.
Action closed, hammer back. Ready to fire.
Tall hammer, extended breech-block thumb-piece, and both have the "shield" pattern on it characteristic of the NYS Militia rifles.
I've already found a cleaning rod for it and ordered it. And as soon as I can make up some black powder cartridges for this, we'll have a range report.
There'll be candy-bar lunches and ramen-noodle dinners for a couple of weeks now, but I'm happy.

"Is that a Rolling Block? Can we shoot cats with it?
But it was there, stuck back in a corner of their rack behind the counter two days ago. And they didn't seem to know what it was.
Is that a Rolling Block, I asked, knowing full well that it was. And it was. A bit shop-worn and neglected, but at over 140 years old, it's excusable.
The tag read: .45-70 rifle". The price: up there. My guess was that they didn't know what they had or what it was worth and they were just taking a WAG (Wild-ass Guess) and hoping that someone would bite.
To be fair, I'm far from a Rolling Block expert. I know one when I see one, but when it comes to telling the difference between the uncountable number of variations of them out there...not even on a good day. Still, if this was a .45-70, it could come in handy as a test rifle for working up loads for my more valuable and fragile Trapdoor. And it's not like it's not historic and kinda neat it's ownself.
I played with it in the store for a while, kicking it's tires thoroughly and pointing out every flaw, real or imagined, that I could find. And it was pretty easy as the stock had plenty of wear and some re-finish long ago, and the metal was either patina or bare, with a fair bit of external mild pitting on the barrel and some rust on the receiver. But the action was solid and tight, and the bore was remarkably clean and bright with some pretty good grooves. It wasn't a museum piece, but it was far from being a basket case and it looked like it'd make a good shooter.
"Don't look too interested," I told myself. I pawed it over, then set it down and looked at some videos on a nearby rack, then I toyed with it some more, trying to appear skeptically pensive. Isiah, the guy behind the counter, seemed to think that I was his only reason for existing. He really, really wanted me to buy this rifle. But I had a lot of homework to do before I was willing to commit. I needed to figure out what it was and what it was worth first. So I continued to play with it, making mental notes as to the type of sight, number of barrel bands, markings, etc. And Isiah kept pressing me to buy it, dropping the price more and more each time that I didn't take the bait. Finally he was down to almost half what the tag was asking. Well considering that some of the shop's other "gems" included a Turkish Mauser with a garbage bore and a broken extractor that didn't even get a shrug from Isiah when I pointed it out ($350.00 for that POS) and a Czech Mauser boat anchor with a stock that someone had painted gloss brown (Described as a BRNO rifle, also $350.), I figured that if they were asking that much for obvious junk, their mark-up on the Rolling Block had to be astronomical as well. I thanked him for his time and left with his "best out-the-door price" written down, telling him I might be back again that evening or the next day.
Home I went, and on the computer I got. A bit of research pretty much pegged this rifle as a Model 1871 out of the batch purchased by New York state for that state's militia back in the early 1870's. It was not, however, a .45-70 but a .50-70. This was a bit of a let-down for me, but I could at least still get brass and bullets for it so what the heck? Besides, I wanted to see how low they'd really go on it.
I wandered back in the next morning. Isiah was there, along with a woman I'd not seen the day before. His eyes brightened when he saw me. "Back for this rifle?" he asked, way too hopefully.
"I came back to check it out again," I said. "If it's a .45-70, I can probably find a use for it."
"Oh yeah, it's a .45-70," Isiah reassured me as he took the rifle off the rack.
"Great," I said. "But just to be sure, because these things are floating around out there in so many different calibers today, I brought a dummy .45-70 cartride to check it out with. You don't mind, right?" You'd have thought that I just kicked his dog by the look on his face. That pretty much told me that he either knew or suspected that this wasn't a .45-70. He took my dummy round--made that morning in my shop from a new case and bullet, with no primer or powder, and he handled it for quite a while. "This can't go off, can it?" he asked, staring at the empty primer pocket. I assured him that it could not, and when he handed it back to me, I dropped it into the rifle's chamber. It slid right in and rattled around a bit. "Hmmmm..." I said. Then I took it out and put the bullet into the muzzle. The round dropped in clean to the cartridge head.
"This is not a .45-70," I told Isiah.
"Well what is it?" He asked me.
"Could be anything," I replied. "They re-chambered these in so many calibers, almost all of which are obsolete now." I paused for a bit. "Let me think on this," I told him.
The rear sight--correct for this model rifle.
At this point, Isiah told the woman there to take care of me, because he was going to get something to eat. Apparently he'd lost interest in this deal and wasn't worried about letting me know it. Points off for rudeness, I decided.
She came over and asked me if I wanted the rifle, telling me that they wanted to sell it because it had been in the store "forever". I explained the caliber problem and told her that I might still be interested in it, however I'd come in willing to buy a .45-70 and this wasn't one. She asked me if Isiah had given me a bottom-line price, and I said yes, naming a figure that was $50.00 lower than his quoted price mainly as a tax for him walking out on me like that. Then I spent the next five minutes idly looking at the rifle before I told her that even though we didn't know what caliber it was, I was willing to consider it just as a project if she'd take a hundred dollars less than the figure I'd just named ($150.00 off Isiah's "best we can do" price.) She walked in the back a minute, then came out and said if I was paying cash, we had a deal. I handed her the cash and made myself scarce before Isiah returned. I paid less than half of their original price, which tells me that their mark-up was ridiculous in the extreme.
Now I've got the rifle back at the lair, some of the surface rust has been removed, and a nice coating of RIG applied to the metal until I can devote a bit more time to a proper clean-up. I've got some .50-70 stuff on order and I can only hope that I've assessed it correctly as a NYS militia rifle otherwise the joke here may well be on me. But even if it is, this old rifle's clearly been somewhere and done something and now it's got a good home.
The remains of it's old unit and rack numbers. Someone issued and tracked this rifle for a while.
The Rolling Block action. NYS militia rifles were known for their tall hammers.
Action open, ready to receive a cartridge.
Action closed, hammer back. Ready to fire.
Tall hammer, extended breech-block thumb-piece, and both have the "shield" pattern on it characteristic of the NYS Militia rifles.
I've already found a cleaning rod for it and ordered it. And as soon as I can make up some black powder cartridges for this, we'll have a range report.
There'll be candy-bar lunches and ramen-noodle dinners for a couple of weeks now, but I'm happy.
"Is that a Rolling Block? Can we shoot cats with it?
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