Thursday, August 18, 2011

A community organizer and others object to police teaching kids about guns

And in California, what was supposed to be a nice friendly event where local kids met and interacted with police officers went sour when neighborhood loons protested the fact that the police officers had...wait for it...GUNS!

Oh, NOEZ!!! Who would ever have expected that?

Here were the police officers, trying to establish a good rapport with the kiddies. Who could ever object to that? Well crack dealers, perhaps. And local fruitbats who got so bent out of shape over the presence of firearms that they tried to kill this event and any future ones like it.
Photos of officers from the Santa Rosa Police Department letting kids handle the department’s SWAT team weaponry at a community event has sparked a debate over how much exposure to guns is healthy for kids.

Community organizer Attila Nagy, who took the photos, told that he was concerned it might encourage kids to use guns in the future.

"My main concern is for kids who handle these things. They're fascinated by them, and it makes them familiar with guns," he said.
Yeah, let's make sure that kids never become familiar with firearms, except of course those on TV and in the movies or video games. Let's treat real guns as "forbidden fruit" and make kids even more curious about them. Geez. That's an idea so dumb that I really wasn't surprised to hear it come from a self-identified "community organizer".

But wait--there are more idiots in this tale...even an elected one.
One city councilwoman, Marsha Vas Dupre, told her local paper that she was “alarmed and devastated” by the photos.
Fortunately for the side of right, the police department is standing by their decision.
"The weapons are rendered safe and are unloaded. We ensure the safety of those weapons," Santa Rosa Police Capt. Gary Negri told, adding that the police attend the event to build ties between the police and the community.

"Our goal is saying to people, ‘hey, don't be intimidated by the police.’ We want to break down that barrier… Once these events are over, people will be more comfortable having conversations with officers.”

Another goal, Negri said, was to educate kids about guns.

“Education and gun safety is a component of what we do… We teach kids the difference between a real gun and a Toys R' Us gun.”
But the crazies in the crwd weren't convinced.
One woman, Elaine Holtz, was so concerned by the SWAT team's weapons that she approached the police officer at the community event and asked what was going on.

"I would not want my child to be involved with something like that... Those guns, they should have been behind glass -- to teach the kids that you don't want to deal with this gun, because it kills." Holtz told

"I am coming from the heart of a woman, a mother, a grandmother," she added.
No, you're coming from the heart of a Dingbat. Police have guns for a reason--to protect themselves and other citizens from the bad guys that seek to prey on the community. But apparently Holz and the others would prefer that the criminals keep their monopoly on access to deadly weapons. And they'd obviously like to ensure that kids never learn how to safely handle guns--hell, that might actually prevent one or two of them from getting shot someday. We wouldn't want that now, would we?

Even the Justice Department says that giving kids supervised access to legal firearms helps cut down the delinquency rate.
"A U.S. Department of Justice study showed that children introduced to firearms by their fathers had a lower rate of delinquency than children who learned about guns on the street, or even children who had no experience with guns at all," Dr. Tim Wheeling, of the group Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, told

The 1994 Justice Department report concluded: "Boys who own legal firearms... are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns." Specifically, 14 percent of kids with legal firearms committed street crimes, compared to 24 percent of kids with no guns at home.
Still, Holz isn't buying it.
"I did not see any education going on; it looked like it was just fun,"
God forbid that our kids should have fun with the police. Oh, the horror!


  1. Wow.

    I want to live in an alternate universe.

  2. I've got a better idea, give Kalifornia back to Mexico and be done with it... sigh

  3. The stupid, it burns.

  4. There are cars on the road, so you teach kids about the dangers of the roads and how to safely cross.

    There is danger in swimming pools so you teach the kids how to swim.

    There are bicycles on the road so you teach the kids how to ride a bike safely.

    So why not guns? Not like they are not out there,right?

    There are four levels of competence:

    Unconscious Incompetence
    Conscious Incompetence
    Conscious Competence
    Unconscious Competence

    And these eggheads that don't want kids to learn about things that are there are WILFULLY incompetent!

  5. Anonymous7:59 PM

    Yeah, my parents tried the whole "Guns are teh EVILZ! They are bad, don't touch them, don't like them, don't even thing about them!" bit.

    It didn't work. At all. It actually had the exact opposite effect. If I had any money, I'd bet it all that the same thing will happen here.


  6. Uh, I am stunned. Really? God help us.

    On the other hand that is great motivation for the coming weekend. New shooter orientation class with live fire Sat. and Concealed Carry Handgun class Sunday. As much as the Moonbats go at it I do to. I am probably better looking and more friendly to boot! IMHO of course.

  7. Anonymous6:02 AM

    Until we can weed out such loons we are going to be in deep trouble.
    I have two daughters 6&8 and my wife and I are teaching them about guns and safety.We home school also.

  8. My oldest daughter wants an AR for Christmas. My youngest daughter already has her own 10/22. I take great comfort from the fact that they can both outshoot any of these moonbats in CA.

    When the balloon goes up, they will be at the top of the food chain!

  9. My 9 yr old daughter is very proficient with my Model 39 Marlin, Savage single shot bolt action (given to my Dad by my Grandfather in 1943), 10-22, and Dad's Browning A-bolt. She's also very good with a Single-Six, HS-HD Military, Ruger Standard (from 1961), and Stoeger Luger.

    She hasn't shot any centerfire yet, but I have a cut-down 600 Rem. in .243 that I think she'll enjoy when she grows just a bit. This evening she asked me at the sporting goods store when we could go hunting feral hogs.

    Fun moment at the range last Sunday, when another shooter invited oldest son (18) to shoot his mucho grande S&W revolver - .500 S&W revolver.

    "Have you shot any large handguns, son?" "Yes, sir, my Dad's .357s, .45 ACPs, and .44 mag Super Blackhawk." "Let's see your hands." [Son shows him his hands] "Oh, yeah, you've got good hands - you'll do fine."

    I think it took about three hours to wipe the grin from his face...